Concern about cancellation of the graded exercise

Concern about cancellation of the graded exercise

by Albert Fares -
Number of replies: 6

Dear Prof. Fua and course staff,

Thank you for the clarification regarding the issue with the released checkpoint file.

However, I would like to respectfully express my disagreement with the decision to cancel the graded exercise altogether. I understand that it’s difficult to determine who had access to the solutions, but this situation stems from a mistake on the teaching side, not the students’. Many of us took the time to study and prepare seriously, assuming the grade would count for 10% of the final mark. Canceling it now and replacing it with another session penalizes students who acted in good faith and who might not be available on the new date.

Additionally, the proposed alternative of counting the second graded exercise for 20% is not equivalent. Performance can vary between exercises for many reasons and doubling the weight of a single one can disproportionately impact final grades and adds unnecessary pressure. It also removes the benefit of averaging performance across multiple sessions, which is generally a more fair way to evaluate students.

In my view, a more fair solution would be to award everyone the 10% for this graded exercise. That way, students who didn’t look at the released solutions are not penalized, and the course staff acknowledges the error without shifting the burden to students.

I hope you will reconsider the current plan, or at least open a discussion on possible alternatives that don’t disadvantage students due to a mistake outside their control.

Best regards,

Albert


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Re: Concern about cancellation of the graded exercise

by Pascal Fua -
"In my view, a more fair solution would be to award everyone the 10% for this graded exercise." is equivalent to canceling the exercise, so not an option. And may I remind you that you should attend all exercise sessions, graded or not? Thus, I don't think anyone has been severely penalized and, as I wrote, the chosen solution may not be great but it is the "least bad one" under the circumstances.
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Re: Concern about cancellation of the graded exercise

by Emilie Grace Grandjean -
Hello,
If I may comment on this. I think that we should still be graded on this exercise because, as Albert said, many of us took the time to study and prepare seriously and for some of us, these type of time constrained test are quite stressful...
I understand the reason behind wanting to cancel it, but it isn't totally fair for most of us.
Would a possible option be to be graded on this one, redo a graded one as mentioned and decide to keep the best grade ? or something to this effect ? As Albert mentioned as well, performance can vary between exercises for many reasons.
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Re: Concern about cancellation of the graded exercise

by Corentin Dumery -
Hello Albert and Emilie, as Pascal explained what you suggest is unfortunately not an option, and keeping any grades from this morning is the most unfair solution as some students had access to the solution. We will grade the next exercise instead of this one, and the preparation you already did will still be very helpful. This additional time will probably result in higher grades as a result.
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Re: Concern about cancellation of the graded exercise

by Camille Emma Lannoye -
Hello,

I would like to voice my support for Albert’s and Emilie’s points. In addition to the concerns they raised, I’d also like to highlight the increased mental load this additional exercise would create. Many of us have a Modern Natural Language Processing midterm on April 9th, and balancing preparation for both will add significant stress.

As Emilie mentioned, time-constrained exercises can already be quite stressful. Would it then be possible to adjust the format or timing to mitigate this? Like Albert, I believe it would be valuable to open a discussion on possible alternatives that benefit both students and the teaching team.

Best regards,
Camille
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Re: Concern about cancellation of the graded exercise

by Arnaud Teinturier -

Hello,

Instead of retaking the exam, why not consider a homework assignment? This would address the concerns raised while avoiding reliance on this morning's graded session. A solution that seems fair to all.

That said, I have no intention of sparking debate—at the master's level, any reasonable approach should work.

Best regards,

Arnaud

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Re: Concern about cancellation of the graded exercise

by Emile Cornamusaz -
I'd like to add that those who took Advanced Topics on Privacy Enhancing Technologies also have a midterm the same day as the additional graded exercise :)